tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post7898801519481299809..comments2023-05-30T08:29:42.770-04:00Comments on The Erotica Readers & Writers Association Blog: Porn: A Public Health Crisis? Croco Designshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04417265522875605547noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-82553098127212635292014-07-13T08:10:59.669-04:002014-07-13T08:10:59.669-04:00"I don't think porn is a public health cr..."I don't think porn is a public health crisis. However, it may well be an educational crisis. "<br /><br />Hear, hear. As Roberta said, it's a convenient but ultimately useless target.Remittance Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07902713020074243375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-44201572345714762252014-07-02T08:35:14.071-04:002014-07-02T08:35:14.071-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.information virushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02934209599003214413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-75983265813994321482014-06-27T00:14:43.822-04:002014-06-27T00:14:43.822-04:00Lisabet, I'm glad you tackled the anti-porn lo...Lisabet, I'm glad you tackled the anti-porn lobby, which has been around for many years. As a young woman in the 1970s wanting some relief from harassment on the street & on the job, I thought maybe "porn" was the source of the perception of too many males that all females over puberty were dirty jokes. No one in those days seemed to be discussing "rape culture." I came to realize that banning "porn" doesn't accomplish anything good, and that "porn" is often in the eye of the beholder. It makes a handy target for those who don't want to look at other sources of sexual violence.Jean Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805088081675965859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-39677573955886292192014-06-25T18:37:10.439-04:002014-06-25T18:37:10.439-04:00What they call "sex ed" in the schools i...What they call "sex ed" in the schools in my town consists of showing young people pictures of diseased organs in end stages of STDs and telling them their privates will rot off if they have premarital sex. I sat in on a curriculum night presentation once, and after the very young teacher was done, I raised my hand and asked her if they teach anything about condom usage. She looked furtively around and shook her head, "Only as it pertains to married people seeking to limit the number of kids they have." Really? The other parents nodded agreeably while I seethed. We taught our own kids sensibly, but I worry about the rest of the kids in town, whose parents think if they hide their heads in the sand, their kids won't ever think about "those kinds of things"...while living in a culture that glorifies slut-shaming along with putting pre-teen girls into shorts with cute words on the ass. Sigh...Fiona McGierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495707848048468428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-28086348003637618102014-06-25T18:27:04.410-04:002014-06-25T18:27:04.410-04:00Thanks for an interesting article. Raises lots of ...Thanks for an interesting article. Raises lots of crucially important issues as food for thought. And raising issues for discussion is surely a good, positive, constructive place to begin any attempt to understand the issues better.<br /><br />Personally, I've never subscribed to, or seen any evidence to support, the idea that pornography necessarily harms the sex lives of people who partake thereof. <br /><br />And there must be reasons why people gravitate towards it - perhaps because it is fascinating, exciting, inspirational, educational?<br /><br />As for teens, I would suggest there are many aspects of education which are inadequate in equipping them to deal confidently with the world. And perhaps formal education as such will always fall short, including in areas of relational and sexual discovery. But to blame pornography for sexual violence is like blaming movies for war.Reubenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358773043012181802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-20471055975806126612014-06-23T14:50:52.611-04:002014-06-23T14:50:52.611-04:00My wife and I decided early in our parenting care...My wife and I decided early in our parenting career we would teach a respectful healthy attitude about sex. When #1 was still a toddler and in still in daycare we were changing him together at home one evening. He was pulling on his penis so hard I thought he would pull it off. "I asked, "What do you call that?" expecting him to recite the proper answer. He gave it another yank. "Bucky." My wife nearly hit me with the poopy pull-up. "I didn't teach him that." I protested. She had cause to doubt me as I attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison, home of Bucky Badger. But alas, I was innocent. He must have learned it at daycare- a Montessori school where they also teach proper stuff.Sex education was downhill from there. Every time I tried to talk to my boys about sex they covered their ears and turned up the radio. They must have learned. They have healthy attitudes about women and haven't fathered any children (yet). About reading my stories, that's whole blog post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15484640447109164744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-85214673686567792822014-06-23T08:12:14.770-04:002014-06-23T08:12:14.770-04:00I think parents are the ones who have to speak up ...I think parents are the ones who have to speak up here, Mary. I'm just an old lady who writes dirty stories. Who is going to listen to me?Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-89076310579009484372014-06-23T08:11:17.301-04:002014-06-23T08:11:17.301-04:00Have you ever talked to your sons about sex?
Mayb...Have you ever talked to your sons about sex?<br /><br />Maybe they should read some of your stories...Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-27315354103740196972014-06-23T08:10:35.890-04:002014-06-23T08:10:35.890-04:00So the sex education in your child's school te...So the sex education in your child's school teaches that sex is shameful? Exactly what we <b>don't</b> need.<br /><br />Of course, it sounds like she has got the info she needs from her family, along with a healthy attitude. I worry about her peers, though.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-14440082484424195152014-06-23T02:56:56.237-04:002014-06-23T02:56:56.237-04:00Same here!Same here!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11889482544463723850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-91171996160891062682014-06-22T14:57:50.939-04:002014-06-22T14:57:50.939-04:00Great post as always, Lisabet. I live in Californi...Great post as always, Lisabet. I live in California, don't have kids myself,<br />but all my friends do and sex ed in the schools just isn't happenin'.<br />My friend's 9 yo daughter said the 'f' word during recess at her private<br />school and all the parents of the kids in her proximity had to called and told what happened. Really??? We had a terrible, terrible case out here<br />where a 15 yo was partying with some friends, got drunk, and these<br />boys raped her and took photos on their iPhones of her naked posting them to some social media site. The young woman committed suicide.<br />I think her mother is working with Congress to have harsher sentencing<br />for boys who do things like this. Lisabet, you're a powerful smart woman. If anyone can change things, it's you.I have more questions than I do answers. Word Actresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041865850513656748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-39842100134376560082014-06-22T12:01:25.607-04:002014-06-22T12:01:25.607-04:00Lisabet:
Apparently there are more than 24 hours i...Lisabet:<br />Apparently there are more than 24 hours in a day where you live. I don't know how you find time for you many activities in support of the craft. Thank you.<br /><br />Some great thoughts here. Wish I had one to offer. I have two millennial children, boys now 20 and 23 not that far out of school. Education is the hope but not a possibility as long as the neocons set the agenda. Hell is the impossibility of reason.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15484640447109164744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-87145799202408620562014-06-22T08:32:09.878-04:002014-06-22T08:32:09.878-04:00I'm probably going to pull my child out of the...I'm probably going to pull my child out of the sex ed at school because I don't want her to get all those wrong ideas that she's as nasty as used gum because she has sex... no one needs that.<br /><br />She's grown up in a very sexually open and aware household, and I answer her questions honestly and as thoroughly as she wants to know.Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13102363251376084521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-46921903907321866332014-06-22T06:48:15.451-04:002014-06-22T06:48:15.451-04:00Exactly my point! And there is something seriously...Exactly my point! And there is something seriously wrong with our schools, I think.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-84178893062629579432014-06-22T06:47:34.551-04:002014-06-22T06:47:34.551-04:00Excellent point, Sybil. Unfortunately, relatively ...Excellent point, Sybil. Unfortunately, relatively few people examine scientific (or pseudo-scientific) statements at all critically. I was a researcher for years and still teach experimental methods. I don't believe any claims unless I see the detailed data and analyses!Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-11382451068725815362014-06-22T06:45:26.682-04:002014-06-22T06:45:26.682-04:00I agree wholeheartedly, Graham. Banning material t...I agree wholeheartedly, Graham. Banning material that some people find offensive is much easier than critically examining the societal attitudes toward sex that undermine effective education about sexuality.<br /><br />Of course legislating against smut <b>never</b> works....which as you note, just encourages more stringent censorship.Lisabet Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162514190572269660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-62374552866582104042014-06-21T19:10:40.640-04:002014-06-21T19:10:40.640-04:00If porn is the most powerful form of sex education...If porn is the most powerful form of sex education, there is something seriously wrong with our schools. The solution is not to regulate porn, but to improve sex education in the schools.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06947369627662687721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-2531582719355057432014-06-21T19:06:42.621-04:002014-06-21T19:06:42.621-04:00"There's also a serious logical flaw hidi..."There's also a serious logical flaw hiding in Dr. Layden's statement. When treating victims of sexual violence, she has noted that porn shows up in most cases. This does not necessarily mean that porn leads to sexual violence. The causality could very well work the other way: individuals prone to commit sexual violence tend to use porn as fantasy material or a substitute for action."<br /><br />Excellent point. Another possibility to consider is that, if just about everyone has viewed porn, then it's logical that just about everyone who has experienced sexual violence has also viewed porn. It's like if this therapist had said, "Eating breakfast cereal has been a factor in every case of sexual violence I have treated." I'm sure that if you asked every perpetrator and victim whether they'd ever eaten breakfast cereal, most of them would say yes. But to claim there's a correlation between cereal-eating and sexual violence (not even causation, but just a simple correlation), you'd need to show that people who have NOT experienced sexual violence are LESS likely to eat cereal. (Or in this case, watch porn.) You can't show a difference between groups if you only collect data from one group.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11889482544463723850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7396437919069310850.post-9031091616380703392014-06-21T06:35:56.930-04:002014-06-21T06:35:56.930-04:00A good post, but, as has been seen all too often, ...A good post, but, as has been seen all too often, it's much easier to legislate than educate, especially since that plays well in the right-wing "isn't it dreadful" press. <br /><br />It's also always simpler to find a convenient scape-goat for society's ills with post hoc justfications of "well Person X did this horrible thing and they read/ looked at/ watched Y (which we don't like), therefore the one must have been caused by the other". The fact that there may have been other issues involved either doesn't occur to them or is conveniently ignored :-(<br /><br />The real crisis is that people's freedom of expression is being slowly whittled away, one small piece at a time. "Let's ban A because we know it's bad". "Great, but that didn't work, so let's ban B as well". "Hmm, still not working, a ban on C might help..." and once slice at a time your right to express yourself is reduced.Affordable Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726516591227508767noreply@blogger.com